The Apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

John A. Catsimatidis’ empire all started with a small grocery store on Manhattan’s Upper West Side in 1971. The store, named Red Apple, became the cornerstone of what would eventually become the Red Apple Group. The conglomerate owns United Refining, Gristede’s Supermarkets, Red Apple Real Estate, United Metro Energy, United Energy Plus Terminals, and KwikFill Red Apple.

In the Stoler Report, Michael Stoler joins the Catsimatidis as they speak candidly about their work, their love of business, thoughts for the future, and their father’s vision and creativity.

Watch the video above as they share their lessons.